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Thanks for starting this, sorry for the delay in response.
Building on your spec, I have started a wiki page here:
http://open.coop/tiki-index.php?page=DMS+Spec
To be clear: What I hope we can develop is a detailed spec for a distributed decision making systems (DMS) which clearly explains every aspect of the system we envisage in enough detail that the spec is suitable to hand to the programmers.
As such it will not involve a CMS, Transaction Engine or a 'Implementation' / 'Evaluation' stage.
After feedback on the 1062.org site it seems a key goal is simplicity; the DMS should be easily understandable (in less than 10 minutes!) and equally useable/navigable by novice web users. The GUI should therefore maintain as many 'standard'/recognised web/browser/forum conventions as possible and avoid overloading pages with too much information.
As you will see from my proposed spec I think we can progress away from the idea of ‘stages’ (which seem to have complicated things unnecessarily in our previous attempts to develop this system) by creating a system in which all propositions are under debate until they are accepted, rejected or retracted. (which seems more akin to ‘real life’ democracy to me J )
All propositions are therefore listed in ‘The decision making tree’ and stay there, under debate, until they are accepted, rejected or retracted. Accepted and rejected propositions are then archived.
The main problem I see with the system I have specified is how stakeholders would agree on the ‘deadline’, ‘type’ of vote ‘percentage of votes required’ and ‘positive average required’?
I’m sure I’ve missed many other things too, please feedback ideas as you have them.
Peace
olisb
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Thanks for starting this, sorry for the delay in response.
Building on your spec, I have started a wiki page here: http://open.coop/tiki-index.php?page=DMS+Spec
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The main problem I see with the system I have specified is how stakeholders would agree on the ‘deadline’, ‘type’ of vote ‘percentage of votes required’ and ‘positive average required’?
I’m sure I’ve missed many other things too, please feedback ideas as you have them.
Peace
olisb
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The point though is that debate and decision are combined to allow participants to vote on an issue at any time (which feeds back as its' popularity) . No-one has to decide 'right lets make the decision', so simple (easily agreed) decisions happen as quickly as possible since users dont have to wait to vote.
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The PlaNet software is comprised of five principal types of conferences – which can be combined and modified in different ways to suit the needs of the customer:
* The Brain Storm Stage
* The Debate Stage
* The Decision Making stage
* Implementation stage
* Evaluation stage
In the beginning, we shall focus on the first three stages, which is enough to get going.
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- Participants must be able to apply for becoming advisors and to send in their personal presentation
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If you miss something,please add it!"
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Thanks for starting this, sorry for the delay in response.
Building on your spec, I have started a wiki page here:
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Peace
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Thanks for starting this, sorry for the delay in response.
Building on your spec, I have started a wiki page here: http://open.coop/tiki-index.php?page=DMS+Spec
To be clear: What I hope we can develop is a detailed spec for a distributed decision making systems (DMS) which clearly explains every aspect of the system we envisage in enough detail that the spec is suitable to hand to the programmers.
As such it will not involve a CMS, Transaction Engine or a 'Implementation' / 'Evaluation' stage.
After feedback on the 1062.org site it seems a key goal is simplicity; the DMS should be easily understandable (in less than 10 minutes!) and equally useable/navigable by novice web users. The GUI should therefore maintain as many 'standard'/recognised web/browser/forum conventions as possible and avoid overloading pages with too much information.
As you will see from my proposed spec I think we can progress away from the idea of ‘stages’ (which seem to have complicated things unnecessarily in our previous attempts to develop this system) by creating a system in which all propositions are under debate until they are accepted, rejected or retracted. (which seems more akin to ‘real life’ democracy to me J )
All propositions are therefore listed in ‘The decision making tree’ and stay there, under debate, until they are accepted, rejected or retracted. Accepted and rejected propositions are then archived.
The main problem I see with the system I have specified is how stakeholders would agree on the ‘deadline’, ‘type’ of vote ‘percentage of votes required’ and ‘positive average required’?
I’m sure I’ve missed many other things too, please feedback ideas as you have them.
Peace
olisb
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Thanks for starting this, sorry for the delay in response.
Building on your spec, I have started a wiki page here:
http://open.coop/tiki-index.php?page=DMS+Spec
To be clear: What I hope we can develop is a detailed spec for a distributed decision making systems (DMS) which clearly explains every aspect of the system we envisage in enough detail that the spec is suitable to hand to the programmers.
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As you will see from my proposed spec I think we can progress away from the idea of ‘stages’ (which seem to have complicated things unnecessarily in our previous attempts to develop this system) by creating a system in which all propositions are under debate until they are accepted, rejected or retracted. (which seems more akin to ‘real life’ democracy to me J )
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The main problem I see with the system I have specified is how stakeholders would agree on the ‘deadline’, ‘type’ of vote ‘percentage of votes required’ and ‘positive average required’?
I’m sure I’ve missed many other things too, please feedback ideas as you have them.
Peace
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I’m sure I’ve missed many other things too, please feedback ideas as you have them.
Peace
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Thanks for starting this, sorry for the delay in response.
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Thanks for starting this, sorry for the delay in response.
Building on your spec, I have started a wiki page here:
http://open.coop/tiki-index.php?page=DMS+Spec
To be clear: What I hope we can develop is a detailed spec for a distributed decision making systems (DMS) which clearly explains every aspect of the system we envisage in enough detail that the spec is suitable to hand to the programmers.
As such it will not involve a CMS, Transaction Engine or a 'Implementation' / 'Evaluation' stage.
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As you will see from my proposed spec I think we can progress away from the idea of ‘stages’ (which seem to have complicated things unnecessarily in our previous attempts to develop this system) by creating a system in which all propositions are under debate until they are accepted, rejected or retracted. (which seems more akin to ‘real life’ democracy to me J )
All propositions are therefore listed in ‘The decision making tree’ and stay there, under debate, until they are accepted, rejected or retracted. Accepted and rejected propositions are then archived.
The main problem I see with the system I have specified is how stakeholders would agree on the ‘deadline’, ‘type’ of vote ‘percentage of votes required’ and ‘positive average required’?
I’m sure I’ve missed many other things too, please feedback ideas as you have them.
Peace
olisb
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Thanks for starting this, sorry for the delay in response.
Building on your spec, I have started a wiki page here: http://open.coop/tiki-index.php?page=DMS+Spec
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The main problem I see with the system I have specified is how stakeholders would agree on the ‘deadline’, ‘type’ of vote ‘percentage of votes required’ and ‘positive average required’?
I’m sure I’ve missed many other things too, please feedback ideas as you have them.
Peace
olisb
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Thanks for starting this, sorry for the delay in response.
Building on your spec, I have started a wiki page here:
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To be clear: What I hope we can develop is a detailed spec for a distributed decision making systems (DMS) which clearly explains every aspect of the system we envisage in enough detail that the spec is suitable to hand to the programmers.
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The main problem I see with the system I have specified is how stakeholders would agree on the ‘deadline’, ‘type’ of vote ‘percentage of votes required’ and ‘positive average required’?
I’m sure I’ve missed many other things too, please feedback ideas as you have them.
Peace
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Peace
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Hi
Your work looks very exciting and could also benefit from the goodwill
generated and efficiency increased by embracing this www.traidmark.org
100% net profit donation to charity business model that enables your
exciting work to generate profit from its activities (and ofshoots from
them) for everyones gain.
Explained in more detail here
part1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vp4xiNqWGe8
part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAoxXegFhqY
This would...
1 create funds for charity
2 make charity more 'efficient'
3 boost your companies success rate with added goodwill
4 enable people who created your project to get rewarded financially
though performance pay while creating an organisation that is able to
provide a platform for goodwill collaboration where everyone is rewarded
for their hard/clever work knowing that all benefits go towards 'good
causes':)
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to innovative charities.
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combining the best parts of each.
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passionate people and therefore keep efficiency high. There may be a
problem in the future of NFPO's as they get larger and/or creating a
reputation which then allows them to then become (especially if/when
they get into a dominant position / niche market). One potential danger
is just with Google the Mozilla foundation could create such a dominant
reach that it does not have to evolve and therefore could hurt
'progress' by becoming sluggish and conservative in its approach to
innovation.
If this is possible I would love to work with you.
Ed Whyman
www.traidmark.org
www.whymandesign.com
This email and any attachments are confidential.
You may not use any information contained in this email or attachments
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Hi
I would like to join an activeopen cooperative.
One way to do ths is to ask members to pay a small £5 fee to make sure everyone is committed. the next stage would be to enable all members to meet up monthly to see how we can collaborate best.
Your work looks very exciting and could also benefit from the goodwill
generated and efficiency increased by embracing this www.traidmark.org
100% net profit donation to charity business model that enables your
exciting work to generate profit from its activities (and ofshoots from
them) for everyones gain.
Explained in more detail here
part1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vp4xiNqWGe8
part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAoxXegFhqY
This would...
1 create funds for charity
2 make charity more 'efficient'
3 boost your companies success rate with added goodwill
4 enable people who created your project to get rewarded financially
though performance pay while creating an organisation that is able to
provide a platform for goodwill collaboration where everyone is rewarded
for their hard/clever work knowing that all benefits go towards 'good
causes':)
Traidmark.org represents a business model that rewards hard work with
performance related pay while donating 100% net profit from the company
to innovative charities.
Traidmark aims to find a middle ground between ruthless efficiency
e.g.Tesco (uk) and compassionate inefficiency e.g. charities by
combining the best parts of each.
Profit making + donation to 'efficient' org's = increased
efficiency/innovation and increased philanthropic work.
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problem in the future of NFPO's as they get larger and/or creating a
reputation which then allows them to then become (especially if/when
they get into a dominant position / niche market). One potential danger
is just with Google the Mozilla foundation could create such a dominant
reach that it does not have to evolve and therefore could hurt
'progress' by becoming sluggish and conservative in its approach to
innovation.
If this is possible I would love to work with you.
Ed Whyman
www.traidmark.org
www.whymandesign.com
This email and any attachments are confidential.
You may not use any information contained in this email or attachments
without permission.
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Thanks for starting this, sorry for the delay in response.
Building on your spec, I have started a wiki page here:
http://open.coop/tiki-index.php?page=DMS+Spec
To be clear: What I hope we can develop is a detailed spec for a distributed decision making systems (DMS) which clearly explains every aspect of the system we envisage in enough detail that the spec is suitable to hand to the programmers.
As such it will not involve a CMS, Transaction Engine or a 'Implementation' / 'Evaluation' stage.
After feedback on the 1062.org site it seems a key goal is simplicity; the DMS should be easily understandable (in less than 10 minutes!) and equally useable/navigable by novice web users. The GUI should therefore maintain as many 'standard'/recognised web/browser/forum conventions as possible and avoid overloading pages with too much information.
As you will see from my proposed spec I think we can progress away from the idea of ‘stages’ (which seem to have complicated things unnecessarily in our previous attempts to develop this system) by creating a system in which all propositions are under debate until they are accepted, rejected or retracted. (which seems more akin to ‘real life’ democracy to me J )
All propositions are therefore listed in ‘The decision making tree’ and stay there, under debate, until they are accepted, rejected or retracted. Accepted and rejected propositions are then archived.
The main problem I see with the system I have specified is how stakeholders would agree on the ‘deadline’, ‘type’ of vote ‘percentage of votes required’ and ‘positive average required’?
I’m sure I’ve missed many other things too, please feedback ideas as you have them.
Peace
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Thanks for starting this, sorry for the delay in response.
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I’m sure I’ve missed many other things too, please feedback ideas as you have them.
Peace
olisb
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The PlaNet software is comprised of five principal types of conferences – which can be combined and modified in different ways to suit the needs of the customer:
* The Brain Storm Stage
* The Debate Stage
* The Decision Making stage
* Implementation stage
* Evaluation stage
In the beginning, we shall focus on the first three stages, which is enough to get going.
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- ability to send in/propose new ideas
- ability to rate the proposed ideas
- ability to see a list of all proposed ideas sorted according to mean rating or mean rating times number of voters
- Ability to comment/debate each new idea
-ability to click on each idea, so that it will be displayed together with all the comments that belongs to it.
- to be able to click on a link to go one level up in the hierarchy, i.e. from the single idea to the idea top chart
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Rating on the debate item is not necessary, here the focus will be on the arguments.
-ability to group arguments in for or against
- ability to rate the arguments
- ability to display the arguments in separete lists sorted according to rating
1.3 The decision stage. Ability to rate yes/no. No results displayd until after the deadline.
Delegated voting:
- A page with presentations, or links to presentations of all advisors.
-Being able to choose advisor
- Being able to override the advisors vote when you vote yourself, and let the voting results be updated
- Being able to update voting reslts when you shift advisor
- Being able tosee advisor statistics, ie how the advisors did vote before, and how many votes thet had for each issue.
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- Participants must be able to apply for becoming advisors and to send in their personal presentation
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-Being able to Log in and have different access rights for different user grops = standard feature in most CMS systems
- Being able to have a category/subject hierarchy like general/economy/property tax
- Being able to easily navigate in the subject hierarchy, ie buy a tree with all the categories dispalyed, where you can to the category you want by clicking on the link.
Being able to set rating scales and deadlines seprately for each category, either by common decision or by a moderator.
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This will be enough to get started!
If you miss something,please add it!"
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1. Product description
The PlaNet software is comprised of five principal types of conferences – which can be combined and modified in different ways to suit the needs of the customer:
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- ability to send in/propose new ideas
- ability to rate the proposed ideas
- ability to see a list of all proposed ideas sorted according to mean rating or mean rating times number of voters
- Ability to comment/debate each new idea
-ability to click on each idea, so that it will be displayed together with all the comments that belongs to it.
- to be able to click on a link to go one level up in the hierarchy, i.e. from the single idea to the idea top chart
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Rating on the debate item is not necessary, here the focus will be on the arguments.
-ability to group arguments in for or against
- ability to rate the arguments
- ability to display the arguments in separete lists sorted according to rating
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- A page with presentations, or links to presentations of all advisors.
-Being able to choose advisor
- Being able to override the advisors vote when you vote yourself, and let the voting results be updated
- Being able to update voting reslts when you shift advisor
- Being able tosee advisor statistics, ie how the advisors did vote before, and how many votes thet had for each issue.
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- Participants must be able to apply for becoming advisors and to send in their personal presentation
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-Being able to Log in and have different access rights for different user grops = standard feature in most CMS systems
- Being able to have a category/subject hierarchy like general/economy/property tax
- Being able to easily navigate in the subject hierarchy, ie buy a tree with all the categories dispalyed, where you can to the category you want by clicking on the link.
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Thanks for starting this, sorry for the delay in response.
Building on your spec, I have started a wiki page here:
http://open.coop/tiki-index.php?page=DMS+Spec
To be clear: What I hope we can develop is a detailed spec for a distributed decision making systems (DMS) which clearly explains every aspect of the system we envisage in enough detail that the spec is suitable to hand to the programmers.
As such it will not involve a CMS, Transaction Engine or a 'Implementation' / 'Evaluation' stage.
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As you will see from my proposed spec I think we can progress away from the idea of ‘stages’ (which seem to have complicated things unnecessarily in our previous attempts to develop this system) by creating a system in which all propositions are under debate until they are accepted, rejected or retracted. (which seems more akin to ‘real life’ democracy to me J )
All propositions are therefore listed in ‘The decision making tree’ and stay there, under debate, until they are accepted, rejected or retracted. Accepted and rejected propositions are then archived.
The main problem I see with the system I have specified is how stakeholders would agree on the ‘deadline’, ‘type’ of vote ‘percentage of votes required’ and ‘positive average required’?
I’m sure I’ve missed many other things too, please feedback ideas as you have them.
Peace
olisb
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Thanks for starting this, sorry for the delay in response.
Building on your spec, I have started a wiki page here: http://open.coop/tiki-index.php?page=DMS+Spec
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As you will see from my proposed spec I think we can progress away from the idea of ‘stages’ (which seem to have complicated things unnecessarily in our previous attempts to develop this system) by creating a system in which all propositions are under debate until they are accepted, rejected or retracted. (which seems more akin to ‘real life’ democracy to me J )
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The main problem I see with the system I have specified is how stakeholders would agree on the ‘deadline’, ‘type’ of vote ‘percentage of votes required’ and ‘positive average required’?
I’m sure I’ve missed many other things too, please feedback ideas as you have them.
Peace
olisb
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-Being able to choose advisor
- Being able to override the advisors vote when you vote yourself, and let the voting results be updated
- Being able to update voting reslts when you shift advisor
- Being able tosee advisor statistics, ie how the advisors did vote before, and how many votes thet had for each issue.
In the start it can be enough to only have general advisors, but later it will be good to have different advisors for each category/subject.
- Participants must be able to apply for becoming advisors and to send in their personal presentation
General features
-Being able to Log in and have different access rights for different user grops = standard feature in most CMS systems
- Being able to have a category/subject hierarchy like general/economy/property tax
- Being able to easily navigate in the subject hierarchy, ie buy a tree with all the categories dispalyed, where you can to the category you want by clicking on the link.
Being able to set rating scales and deadlines seprately for each category, either by common decision or by a moderator.
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This will be enough to get started!
If you miss something,please add it!"
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The PlaNet software is comprised of five principal types of conferences – which can be combined and modified in different ways to suit the needs of the customer:
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1. A 'time-line' will still exist. A count down: 'Time remaining' will be listed on each proposition.
2. The objective of removing 'satges' is simplicity. There will only be a few functions on any proposition: comment/debate/ask a question (all the same function), vote, delegate vote and possibly view results (although they could be listed on the proposition page).
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Hi
Your work looks very exciting and could also benefit from the goodwill
generated and efficiency increased by embracing this www.traidmark.org
100% net profit donation to charity business model that enables your
exciting work to generate profit from its activities (and ofshoots from
them) for everyones gain.
Explained in more detail here
part1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vp4xiNqWGe8
part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAoxXegFhqY
This would...
1 create funds for charity
2 make charity more 'efficient'
3 boost your companies success rate with added goodwill
4 enable people who created your project to get rewarded financially
though performance pay while creating an organisation that is able to
provide a platform for goodwill collaboration where everyone is rewarded
for their hard/clever work knowing that all benefits go towards 'good
causes':)
Traidmark.org represents a business model that rewards hard work with
performance related pay while donating 100% net profit from the company
to innovative charities.
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e.g.Tesco (uk) and compassionate inefficiency e.g. charities by
combining the best parts of each.
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passionate people and therefore keep efficiency high. There may be a
problem in the future of NFPO's as they get larger and/or creating a
reputation which then allows them to then become (especially if/when
they get into a dominant position / niche market). One potential danger
is just with Google the Mozilla foundation could create such a dominant
reach that it does not have to evolve and therefore could hurt
'progress' by becoming sluggish and conservative in its approach to
innovation.
If this is possible I would love to work with you.
Ed Whyman
www.traidmark.org
www.whymandesign.com
This email and any attachments are confidential.
You may not use any information contained in this email or attachments
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I would like to join an activeopen cooperative.
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Your work looks very exciting and could also benefit from the goodwill
generated and efficiency increased by embracing this www.traidmark.org
100% net profit donation to charity business model that enables your
exciting work to generate profit from its activities (and ofshoots from
them) for everyones gain.
Explained in more detail here
part1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vp4xiNqWGe8
part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAoxXegFhqY
This would...
1 create funds for charity
2 make charity more 'efficient'
3 boost your companies success rate with added goodwill
4 enable people who created your project to get rewarded financially
though performance pay while creating an organisation that is able to
provide a platform for goodwill collaboration where everyone is rewarded
for their hard/clever work knowing that all benefits go towards 'good
causes':)
Traidmark.org represents a business model that rewards hard work with
performance related pay while donating 100% net profit from the company
to innovative charities.
Traidmark aims to find a middle ground between ruthless efficiency
e.g.Tesco (uk) and compassionate inefficiency e.g. charities by
combining the best parts of each.
Profit making + donation to 'efficient' org's = increased
efficiency/innovation and increased philanthropic work.
My understanding is that small not for profit org's are run by
passionate people and therefore keep efficiency high. There may be a
problem in the future of NFPO's as they get larger and/or creating a
reputation which then allows them to then become (especially if/when
they get into a dominant position / niche market). One potential danger
is just with Google the Mozilla foundation could create such a dominant
reach that it does not have to evolve and therefore could hurt
'progress' by becoming sluggish and conservative in its approach to
innovation.
If this is possible I would love to work with you.
Ed Whyman
www.traidmark.org
www.whymandesign.com
This email and any attachments are confidential.
You may not use any information contained in this email or attachments
without permission.
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Thanks for starting this, sorry for the delay in response.
Building on your spec, I have started a wiki page here:
http://open.coop/tiki-index.php?page=DMS+Spec
To be clear: What I hope we can develop is a detailed spec for a distributed decision making systems (DMS) which clearly explains every aspect of the system we envisage in enough detail that the spec is suitable to hand to the programmers.
As such it will not involve a CMS, Transaction Engine or a 'Implementation' / 'Evaluation' stage.
After feedback on the 1062.org site it seems a key goal is simplicity; the DMS should be easily understandable (in less than 10 minutes!) and equally useable/navigable by novice web users. The GUI should therefore maintain as many 'standard'/recognised web/browser/forum conventions as possible and avoid overloading pages with too much information.
As you will see from my proposed spec I think we can progress away from the idea of ‘stages’ (which seem to have complicated things unnecessarily in our previous attempts to develop this system) by creating a system in which all propositions are under debate until they are accepted, rejected or retracted. (which seems more akin to ‘real life’ democracy to me J )
All propositions are therefore listed in ‘The decision making tree’ and stay there, under debate, until they are accepted, rejected or retracted. Accepted and rejected propositions are then archived.
The main problem I see with the system I have specified is how stakeholders would agree on the ‘deadline’, ‘type’ of vote ‘percentage of votes required’ and ‘positive average required’?
I’m sure I’ve missed many other things too, please feedback ideas as you have them.
Peace
olisb
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Thanks for starting this, sorry for the delay in response.
Building on your spec, I have started a wiki page here: http://open.coop/tiki-index.php?page=DMS+Spec
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The main problem I see with the system I have specified is how stakeholders would agree on the ‘deadline’, ‘type’ of vote ‘percentage of votes required’ and ‘positive average required’?
I’m sure I’ve missed many other things too, please feedback ideas as you have them.
Peace
olisb
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1. A 'time-line' will still exist. A count down: 'Time remaining' will be listed on each proposition.
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The point though is that debate and decision are combined to allow participants to vote on an issue at any time (which feeds back as its' popularity) . No-one has to decide 'right lets make the decision', so simple (easily agreed) decisions happen as quickly as possible since users dont have to wait to vote.
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* The Debate Stage
* The Decision Making stage
* Implementation stage
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In the beginning, we shall focus on the first three stages, which is enough to get going.
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If you miss something,please add it!"
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Thanks for starting this, sorry for the delay in response.
Building on your spec, I have started a wiki page here:
http://open.coop/tiki-index.php?page=DMS+Spec
To be clear: What I hope we can develop is a detailed spec for a distributed decision making systems (DMS) which clearly explains every aspect of the system we envisage in enough detail that the spec is suitable to hand to the programmers.
As such it will not involve a CMS, Transaction Engine or a 'Implementation' / 'Evaluation' stage.
After feedback on the 1062.org site it seems a key goal is simplicity; the DMS should be easily understandable (in less than 10 minutes!) and equally useable/navigable by novice web users. The GUI should therefore maintain as many 'standard'/recognised web/browser/forum conventions as possible and avoid overloading pages with too much information.
As you will see from my proposed spec I think we can progress away from the idea of ‘stages’ (which seem to have complicated things unnecessarily in our previous attempts to develop this system) by creating a system in which all propositions are under debate until they are accepted, rejected or retracted. (which seems more akin to ‘real life’ democracy to me J )
All propositions are therefore listed in ‘The decision making tree’ and stay there, under debate, until they are accepted, rejected or retracted. Accepted and rejected propositions are then archived.
The main problem I see with the system I have specified is how stakeholders would agree on the ‘deadline’, ‘type’ of vote ‘percentage of votes required’ and ‘positive average required’?
I’m sure I’ve missed many other things too, please feedback ideas as you have them.
Peace
olisb
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Thanks for starting this, sorry for the delay in response.
Building on your spec, I have started a wiki page here: http://open.coop/tiki-index.php?page=DMS+Spec
To be clear: What I hope we can develop is a detailed spec for a distributed decision making systems (DMS) which clearly explains every aspect of the system we envisage in enough detail that the spec is suitable to hand to the programmers.
As such it will not involve a CMS, Transaction Engine or a 'Implementation' / 'Evaluation' stage.
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As you will see from my proposed spec I think we can progress away from the idea of ‘stages’ (which seem to have complicated things unnecessarily in our previous attempts to develop this system) by creating a system in which all propositions are under debate until they are accepted, rejected or retracted. (which seems more akin to ‘real life’ democracy to me J )
All propositions are therefore listed in ‘The decision making tree’ and stay there, under debate, until they are accepted, rejected or retracted. Accepted and rejected propositions are then archived.
The main problem I see with the system I have specified is how stakeholders would agree on the ‘deadline’, ‘type’ of vote ‘percentage of votes required’ and ‘positive average required’?
I’m sure I’ve missed many other things too, please feedback ideas as you have them.
Peace
olisb
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